I am a big 5.11 fan and have about 10 pairs of 5.11 pants. One thing I've learned, is that the sizes vary- almost seems by color. Interesting. Anyway, I bought a Green pair and a Coyote pair of these pants. I tried the coyote pair on, and they fit great so I bought them both. Then the next day after I came home I tried on the green and they fit- barely. I had to take them back. A friend of mine in the clothes making business (designs the CNC sewing machines) told me that the tolerances on fabric is huge and all pants can vary by a size in a half. Hmm- I'll run with that one. :) Try them on.